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Warhammer: Lizardmen
· 96 page full colour, hardback Warhammer army book.

· Contains new Artwork, Background and Rules whilst showcasing the fantastic Warhammer miniature range.

Warhammer: Lizardmen Carnosaur

· This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that makes one of four possible massive center-piece miniatures.

· HUGE - 8 inches long by 5 inches tall

· Can make an Oldblood on Carnosaur, Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur, Kroq-Gar on Carnosaur or Troglodon with Skink Oracle.

Warhammer: Lizardmen Terradon/ Ripperdactyl Riders

· This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that can be assemble as either 3 Terradons or 3 Ripperdactyls, flying cavalry mounts ridden by Lizardmen Skinks.

· Included Parts to upgrade one Terradon rider to the special character Tiktaq'to.

Warhammer: Lizardman Bastiladon

· This box contains a brand new multipart plastic kit that makes a Bastiladon carrying either a Solar Engine or an Ark of Sotek.

Warhammer: Lizardman Skink Priest

· An addition to the popular plastic heroes Clampacks.

· The Lizardman Skink Priest is adorned in feathered plumes and carries a traditional Lizardman totem.

New Finecast Releases

Warhammer: Lizardmen Gor-Rok
· A Clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature.

· A Lizardmen Special Character particularly suited to close combat.

Warhammer: Lizardmen Tetto'eko

· A boxset containing one finely detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature.

· A skink Priets on a Palanquin.


[color=#cc0000]EDIT:[/color]

Since the other topic is growing rapidly with all the info spread out across multiple topics, I thought I'd repost it all here for convenience sake.

I'll keep updating this post as more comes out.

Better pics: [linkeh]http://raffazza.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/new-better-lizardmen-pictures.html?spref=tw[/linkeh]

From Bell of Lost Souls:

- Jeremy Vetok is the author of Warhammer: Liardmen!
- No new Kroxigor, that model is the same as we already have.
- Magic is lore of High Magic. Lore attribute is called Contemplations. It is hard to read but here is what I got: If a spell of the Lore of High Magic is successfully cast by a Liardmen wizard. He can choose to forget the spell. At the end of the magic phase the wizard generates a new spell for each spell he choose to forget from the Lore of High Magic or another lore he also has available but the new spells will always have this or that spell lore's attribute. It is possible to generate the same spell as one that was forgotten or one he forgot in a previous phase. Edit: As I re-read this, it could very well say that it uses the spell lore attribute of the generated spell. Trying to decipher "that" vs. "this". Honestly, it is hard to tell from that little preview box.
- Still Kroxigor mixed with skink units. It is used in the batrep.
- Basic stegadon and both bastiladons are used as special units in the batrep.
- Troglodon and Salamanders are used as rares in the batrep.
- The Slann in the batrep takes Becalming Cogitations.
- Jungle swarms are used as special in the batrep.
- No mention of sacred spawnings or new special abilities on any old units used in batrep.
- All this is hard to read in the small preview image: Terradon Riders and Ripperdactyl Riders have 6+ scaly skin. The flaming bolas are an upgrade for the Terradon Riders with a 6" Range, Str 4, Flaming, Quick to Fire. Drop rocks looks to be D3 Str 4 as before. Ripperdactyls, but not riders, have Frenzy, Armor Piercing and Killing Blow. Looks like the Bloat Toads are placed into enemy units before the game starts, one for each unit of Ripperdactyl Riders. They give the Ripperdactyls frenzy D3+1 attacks instead of 1 against units that have them.
- Many new models have a Predatory Fighters ability: When they roll a 6 To Hit in combat they get a bonus attack for free. The Troglodon's Primal Roar increases this to a 5+ for a single round of combat - not sure if it is just him or also units around him.
- The Bastilladon's Solar Engine seems like a buff wagon of some kind. In the bat rep write up Adam Troke talks about it increasing a unit of Saurus (already with Hand of Glory) in a combat with it to Initiative 4 - could be a buff bubble. Hand of Glory gives D3 Init I think, so maybe the Solar Engine gives +1....not sure. It also seems like he shoots it during the magic phase as a bound spell where it kills 7 guys. So it might do 2d6 hits or a template - not sure on Str.
- Skink Chief and Priest look to have Scaly Skin 6+. Could be all skinks have that now.
- Scar-Vet looks to have Preditory Fighter. Looks to be a slight drop in points.
- Oxyotl and TikTaq'To are listed in the heroes. Both looked to have drop in points by about a third of what they were.
- The prices that were previously posted seem to all be right what is listed here.
- Skink Chief dropped in points by almost a fourth. (Not posting exact points)
- Looking at the preview Rare page it seems to me that you can just upgrade the Ancient Steg to take an Engine of the Gods, unless it is taken as a mount for the Skink Chief. It is also listed as a mount for the Skink Priest. Must be the EotG works differently.
- Base costs of the Stegs look pretty comparable to their current costs. Ancient Steg drops by about 15%, but then you have a couple upgrades. Ancient Steg and Regadon can take Unstoppable Stampede and Sharpened Horns upgrades. Not sure what those do. According to the mount cost on a Skink Chief the Regadon drops a little also.
- Ancient Steg appears to be split profile.
- Razordon hunting pack see a drop in points. Salamanders a slight increase.


Warseer:

Got the WD here. Ripperdactyls are 2 wounds 2 attacks with frenzy, skink riders have armour and shield and spears so minimum of 3+ save. The generated spell from a different lore uses the lore attribute of the new spell. Scar vets can take carnosaurs(!!!) skink priests can take lore of heavens and beasts! Overall im happy!

I can't make the toughness out its really fuzzy, sorry dude!

Edit: strength 4 with killing blow!


Nah it too fuzzy, I think its 10 points more than the current carnosaur upgrade on an oldblood. Or 100 points more its hard to make out!


Our very own stormtruperTK41

Also, the Bastiladon gets dome kind of cool tail attack and has hide so tough that necrosphinx struggle to wound.


Apparently becalming cogitations now allows for dispel rerolls

Redagavo AKu 2013-07-25 06:02
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AKu
Labai puikiai issako mano nuomone apie siuos patvirtintus gandus:
Scar-Vet Carnosaurs are cool, but not if the Carnosaurs still aren't viable. GW track records on the strength of new releases aren't always good, either (see: Mutalith). In better news, Skink Oracles suggest our much anticipated level 4 Skink Wizards, and this kit should have a ton of bits and parts with hopefully some options to put unused characters on foot (ala Skycutter and Chaos Chariot).

Skink Monstrous Cavalry will suck unless they are specialised, or the mount is extremely tough. I don't have a lot of faith in GW getting this right. My worst fear is 3 strength 4 attacks (including the Skink), 5+ Armour Save, and some situational Unique Special Rule for which they are overpriced. Call me a pessimist.

Bastiladons. Buffwagons ahoy! These guys will hopefully be a bit like Empire buffwagons with one as support/synergy and the other direct damage zappy. Both of them will hopefully take up the nerfed Slann slack, and with any luck good at zapping Daemon Princes.

Still sad there's no Saurus MC or new infantry thats what i was waiting for


Oh ir gausim High lore magic, kaip suprantu tokia pat kaip H elfu tik daug kas sako kad specura loros bus pakeista kas mane velgi nedziugina, nes helfu specura labai puiki ir labai tiktu prie lizardu, bet speju bus kazkokia kuri tures reiksmes tik pries woc ir demonus kas labai liudina.

Tikiuos bus seniau nenaudojami saurusu uriai gerai subalansuoti kaip cavalerija ir temple guardai. Stegadonus gal pafixsins.
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Na lizardu kavalerija tai tikrai per daug tasku kainuoja, turetu pataisyti.
siaip daug kas priklauso nuo tasku, senoje knygoje yra geru junitu bet daugelis per brangus... reikia laukti nauju tasku.
O siaip gausi nauju dinozauru, lizardu atzvilgiu as optimistas
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AKu
Na naujas carnosauras super, tikrs monstras, bet tikesimes jis sugebes ateit iki kovos ir pirma rounda neuzsiverst kaip senasis.
Naujas "stegadonas" ispudzio visai nepaliko, maziukas, su mazai detaliu, ir tie "aparatai" skurdziai atrodo. Teradonai puse velno jei ant ju nesedetu skinkai... Is foto sprendziu kad dave flailus jiem liepsnojancius bet kas is to kai WS2...
Charai grazus










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figurkes tai tikrai neblogos, labai patiko tie riperodaktiliai.
Siaip Walgi ne skinkai daro damage, idomu ka sugeba mountai? vien pavadinimas RIPPERodactyl, turetu gerai skersti
Bastiladonas irgi neblogai atrodo.

Nuo 37min galima paziureti video

http://es-es.twitch.tv/miniwargaming/b/434429657
Redagavo Marukas 2013-07-23 06:58
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AKu
beda kad uz ta nieko nedaranti jojika reiks moket kruva tasku nes gi jie mounted! o kai pasiziuri i mounted kitus kur ciuvai normalus tai ka zn na aisku ziuresim i taskus, bet tai kad tipo turi flailus man jau nesuteikia vilties nes mazdaug ai duodam jiem kazka kad S padidint ir bus gerai!
Ai vienas is nauju tu monstru bus su snake machine gun idomu kas ten per daiktas
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Grazu. Ir visa sita ivairove vel bus kapojama isgyvenusiu bestigoru kirviais. Gera tureti armija is dvieju unit'u!


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Marukas
Teradonai ir ripoperiai turetu buti geri, gal jie ir netures geru sarvu, ar gero T, bet butu OP uzdeti sarvus, gera T junitui kuris turi 10M ir dar skraidanciam... bet kokiu atveju jie lengvai isrinks patrankas, ir netgi be baimes chardzins i prieso junitu sonus ir galus kaip suportas. Imperijos demigrifai irgi gi kaunasi demigrifas, o zmogus tik siaip sedi ir daro viena S3 ataka
Labai idomu ka daro tie ripperiai.
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AKu
demogrifai turi 1+AS tai zmogui px sedi skardinej ir gerai o kai tavo uber kieta unita bet kas nukala nes nera jokios apsaugos tai zinai geriau jau jis maziau dmg darytu bet turetu apsauga negu darytu plius minus kazkiek zalos bet niekad kombato nepasiektu
Na ziuresim ka ten knyga rasys, bet laukiau ne to
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Bent jau pagal vaizda, man asmeniskai tai geriausias leidimas nuo Vampire counts leidimo.

Walgi bet demigrifai neskraido ir negali per viena ejima nuskristi 20 coliu ir istaskyti prieso patranku. O doom diveris vienodai vercia bicus tiek su 1+ sarvais, tiek su 6+ maike... Aisku reikia ziureti kiek jie tasku kainuos ir koks junitas minimalus.
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lostangel
lauksim knygos, bus matyt..
demigrifai geriausia mc po morfangu. taip kad su jais lyginti nera ka.
demigrifu raitelis 4 ws 4s ir ant charge s6, si ta tikrai padaro...
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AKu
o ne Woc geriausi MC?
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Siaip ir morfangai geresni nei demigrifai, ir chaos warioru MC geresni, demigrifaiu geri, bet ne geriausi.
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Man Lizardai nauji patinka, laukiame taisyklių, kurios jau už kelių dienų pas kažką išlys kopijos pavidale.
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Marukas
"Skink High Priest" reiskia skinkai gali buti magai lordai?
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AKu
Taip zmones sako
Bet siaip speju ten bus special charas burtinnkas tas ant sosto ir tas high priest speju maks 3lvl magas tiek kad lordas o ne herojus
Keista kad dar nepaplito jokiu taisykliu gandu :/ kazkaip labai tyliai sis leidimas eina.
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AKu
Siek tiek taisykliu:
Jeremy Vetok is the author of Warhammer: Liardmen!
- The frog in the Terradon/Ripperdactyl feed on Ripperdactyl eggs and their scent drives Ripperdactyls into a frenzy. Based on the description is sounds like skink scouts can plant them in enemy units to give a bonus to the Ripperdactyls, probably frenzy, when they attack the unit.
- No new Kroxigor, that model is the same as we already have.
- Magic is lore of High Magic. Lore attribute is called Contemplations. The print is really too small for me to read as the attribute paragraph is huge.
- Still Kroxigor mixed with skink units. It is used the batrep.
- Basic stegadon and both bastiladons are used as special units in the batrep.
- Troglodon and Salamanders are used as rares in the batrep.
- The Slann in the batrep takes Becalming Cogitations.
- Jungle swarms are used as special in the batrep.
- No mention of sacred spawnings or new special abilities on any old units used in batrep.
- All this is hard to read in the small preview image: Terradon Riders and Ripperdactyl Riders have 6+ scaly skin. The flaming bolas are an upgrade for the Terradon Riders with a 6" Range, Str 4, Flaming, Quick to Fire. Drop rocks looks to be D3 Str 4 as before. Ripperdactyls, but not riders, have Frenzy, Armor Piercing and Killing Blow. Looks like the Bloat Toads are placed into enemy units before the game starts, one for each unit of Ripperdactyl Riders. They give the Ripperdactyls frenzy D3+1 attacks instead of 1 against units that have them.
- Many new models have a Predatory Fighters ability: When they roll a 6 To Hit in combat they get a bonus attack for free. The Troglodon's Primal Roar increases this to a 5+ for a single round of combat - not sure if it is just him or also units around him.
- The Bastilladon's Solar Engine seems like a buff wagon of some kind. In the bat rep write up Adam Troke talks about it increases a unit Saurus (already with Hand of Glory) in a combat with it to Initiative 4 - could be a buff bubble. Hand of Glory gives D3 Init I think, so maybe the Solar Engine gives +1....not sure. It also seems like he shoots it during the magic phase as a bound spell.
Magic is lore of High Magic. Lore attribute is called Contemplations. It is hard to read but here is what I got: If a spell of the Lore of High Magic is successfully cast by a Liardmen wizard. He can choose to forget the spell. At the end of the magic phase the wizard generates a new spell for each spell he choose to forget from the Lore of High Magic or another lore he also has available but the new spells will always have this spell lore attribute. It is possible to generate the same spell as one that was forgotten or one he forgot in a previous phase.
Skink Chief and Priest look to have Scaly Skin 6+. Could be all skinks have that now.
- Scar-Vet looks to have Preditory Fighter.


na ka is dalies dziaugiuos kad neteks pirkt tu ripperdactyls ir teradonu nebent taskai uz juos bus juokingi. Frenzy mountai antkuriu joja skinkai kas galetu nutikt blogai (LD6), zodziu flankeriai kurie skris kur kas tik nori ziauriai apsimoka.
Skinkai gauna +6 scaly skin, lol kam lavonam sarvai kad ir tai gave kaina isliktu tapati uz 5pt niekaip tai ju negelbes, nes WS2 T2... nebent tai kito.
Preditory fighter atrodo gan smagiai, pasiimi dideli monstra kad ant 5+ veiktu ir duodi ginkla +3A ir staiga is 8 ataku gali pasidaryt nesunkiai 10 ar net 11 su rerol spelais gerai derinsis tad heavens lora dar labiau tiks.
High elves magija istikruju gal net labiau pritaikyta lizardam. Aisku butu daug maloniau turet kazka savito. Bet lore atributas tai bbd. Kad galesi turet duplikatus (kuo labai abejoju) gal ir nieko vietoje sudu du gerus gausi. bet keist i kitas loras belekokia loterija ir didziulis klausimas ar pasiteisins.
Dinoauras su saules akmeniu jei duos tik +d3I tai bus visiskai nevertas investiciju nes nu jis vistiek minimum kainuos kokius 200pt.
Kad pas slana isliko ruminacijos labai saunu galbut jo nenunerfino siaubingai.
Knygos autorius labai dziugina kadangi jis padare labai gera darba suorcais tai galima tiketis kad didzioji knygos dalis bus puikiai ivertinta taskais
ugniniai bolai irgi nieko gero 6" atstumo saudymas, lyg 12" buvo per daug ir tik S4 jegos... Tai vel bus modelis bbz kam skirtas ar saudymui ar kovai, o moket teks uz du, kad nebutu tas pats kaip su stegadonais senais kad moki belekiek uz didiji crossbow ant kupros kuri issauni karta per 10 zaidimu...

Zodziu kolkas nieko dziuginancio laai nera iskyrus tai kad high lora lizardam tikrai tinka.
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demonai irgi nenudziugino o vot he tikrai sauni knyga, neskaitant banerio....
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AKu
Paeditinau naujausius taisykliu gandus pirmam poste. Na S4 kad ir su KB neatrodo rimta, aisku jie yra cavalerija bet vistiek. sarvai bus 3+ kaip cavalerijai silpnoka T4, na gal kazkiek ju isgyvens Liko klausimas kiek kainuoja
Keista kad stegadonai tik 15% atpigo, galbut statsai pasikeite ar kas, arba ju tiesiog tiek pripirkta kad nebuvo reikalo daryt perdaug gerais
Stegadonas nera net ant didziosios bazes tas isvis mane nuliudino, negavom nei MC nei didelio monstro.... Liudna.
Is teradono nesamo akmens sprendziu kad vel tik viena kart gales numest akmenis kurie D3 hitu darys, velgi silpnoka.
Del papildomos atakos gerai kazkas pakomentavo jeigu tai butu WOC ir jie kazkokiu momentu gautu atakas tai butu autohit Nors tikiuos kad tos papildomos aakos gales generuot dar papildomas atakas (Svajonio drambliones).
Razordonam nukrito kaina idomu tik per kiek ar iki naudojimo ribos. Salamandrom raso kad truputi pakilo speju 5pt? Jeigu taip tada visdar vertes naudot
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