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Warriors of Chaos 2013
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| blackfishas | posted 2013-01-22 14:40 |
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ekhem. į viską reikia labai rimtai reaguoti. ypač kai kalbama apie įmonę su aštuonženkle apyvarta. garažinės įmonės sau neleidžia tokių bajerių. čia, imho, achu%^&linimo pasėkmė. štai ir viskas. galiu nusipersti, o fanboyz&gurlz rinks bezdalus į maišiukus.
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| Marukas | posted 2013-01-22 16:56 |
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GW jau turi tvirta branda, jiem jau nereikia verstis per galva, kad padaryti ispudi... Jie tiesiog kuria produkta ir ji parduoda. O vat garaziniams reikia verstis per galva, kad juos kazkas apskritai pastebetu. Stuff we know from White Dwarf: Forsaken are a core choice. Forsaken are M6 and D3+1 A. Has it's own D6 chart. One result is ASF. Chaos Knights now buy enscrolled weapons as an upgrade WILL OF CHAOS is not listed beneath lords, heroes, knights etc. Only eye of the gods Mutalith has a bound spell ranged 18’’ Seems it does a toughness test (model/unit?) and there is chances of chaos spawns being produced Marauders did not seem to have marks Slaughter beast is a rare choice and is a bound monster. It is bound to your lord and can have the lords WS. Gorebeast chariot is T6 5W. high Armour save (2+?). It has KB even on Impact hits. Slower than a normal chariot Dragon Ogres are on 50 x 75mm bases Two book items are: chalice of chaos soul feeder gift MAGIC marked casters can choose a different lore or stick with their mark: Tzeentch: Lore of Metal Slaanesh: Lore of Shadow Nurgle: Lore of Death Sig Spell: Tzeentch is Blue fire. 24" D6 SD6 MM. Slaanesh is Lash of slaanesh. 24" straight line form the base in forward arc of the caster. Every model under the line receives S3 AP hit. Nurgle Sig spell is a Template. You place breath tempalte at the base of the caster. All models beneath are forced to test T or suffer 1 W with no AS. Nurgle Attribute is that on a succsessful cast roll a D6. On roll of 6 the casters T an W are both increased by 1 to the end of the game. Slaanesh Attribute is for every wound caused by a spell, roll a D6. if a 6 is rolled the caster recieves +1ws/+1A/+1I Tzeentch Attribute is for every 6 rolled on a successful cast, that caster recieves an additional PD. But only that caster can use the additional dice Hordes-Trollbloods
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| AKu | posted 2013-01-22 17:12 |
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Man nurgle magija patinka  t.y. efektas gauni+1w ir +1T kaip tik to ko reikia magui, truputis isgyvenimo
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| lostangel | posted 2013-01-22 18:34 |
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na bus matyt, kaip ir sakiau paturbino magija, herojus, forsakenus (kuriu mazai kas naudojo), monstrus, marauderius itin susilpnino, jie negali marku ir gw gauti, nes visi ju daug turejo (tai reikia kad pirktu kitus modeliu), tas pats laukia ir bloodleteriu  gaila
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| blackfishas | posted 2013-01-23 07:01 |
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"GW jau turi tvirta branda, jiem jau nereikia verstis per galva, kad padaryti ispudi..." ačiū (dievui?), kad taip galvojančių yra mažuma. kitaip sėdėčiau be darbo tuo offtopicas ir baigėsi. daugiau nebėr prasmės apie tai kalbėti. beto ir nevieta. Malifaux - The Guild
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| AKu | posted 2013-01-26 08:18 |
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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCatsLarge.jsp?catId=cat440004a&rootCatGameStyle=wh Advance orderis. Kainos tai siektiek stebina is tikruju. uz monstra 50 svaru? pas mane stegadonas 35 kastuoja tokio pacio dydzio... Forsakenai ungly as shit ir 30 svaru uz 10 baiboku. o dragon ogru kaina man atrodo normali ir nesuprantu bundle esmes jei kaina tokia pati gaunas  tipo maziau pele paspaudinet reiks :D:D:D
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| Plaukai | posted 2013-01-26 16:34 |
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Siūlau CV nusiųst į GW, nes jie, akivaizdžiai, neturi gerų rinkodaros ir reklamos skyrių darbuotojų. Geriausias to pavyzdys yra aštuonženklė apyvarta. Iki šiol nesuprantu iš kur tiek pykčio GW produkcijos megėjams. Edited Plaukai 2013-01-26 17:04 Rats as tall as man, and blessed with the most vile intellect and cunning. They are the dark side of our souls, come to destroy us for our sins. (Albrecht of Nuln)
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| Marukas | posted 2013-01-26 21:50 |
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Labiausiai man patinka Throgas, Chariotas irgi neblogas tik nedeciau tu nereikalingu kotu ant vezimo. Dragonograi geri. O forsakenai is ties baisus.... labai prastas skulptas... nusipirkciau deze su warriorais+deze su plagueberiers ir prisikonvertinciau puikiu forsakenu. Hordes-Trollbloods
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| Don_fanuci | posted 2013-01-27 00:17 |
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Na va pavydit chaoso seimininkams??? Nuotraukose ne visos figuros grazios, naturoje zymiai geriau yra... Na kainos tai nedziugina, uz ta sudekli 50 poundu tai per daug... Na ir knyga 30 poundu daugoka, na bet be jos tai neapsiesim...
Žvejyboje praleistas laikas į gyvenimo trukmę neįsiskaičiuoja...
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| AKu | posted 2013-01-27 07:17 |
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Tu geriau zaist ateik, kad ir be nauju gerybiu o tai jau nepamenu kada pries tave zaidziau
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| Marukas | posted 2013-01-27 08:35 |
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Beja chariotas kainuoja 25 svarus, bet uz juos nemazai gauni.. prie charioto i komplekta yra ideta ir 25mm baze, nes yra galimybe susirinkti atskirai chaos lorda, kas savaime nera blogai. Plius jei surenki chariota su arkliais, lieka monstras kokiam nors konvertui.. pvz chaos spawnas arba afigienas junit filleris
Edited Marukas 2013-01-27 08:47 Hordes-Trollbloods
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| Don_fanuci | posted 2013-01-27 13:51 |
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. Tai , kad tu algiok bijai manes labai laiko neturiu, va tik po menesio ilindau i sita puslapy... Ir tai kai gaavau maila is waylando kad chaosai iseis
Žvejyboje praleistas laikas į gyvenimo trukmę neįsiskaičiuoja...
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| AKu | posted 2013-01-27 15:57 |
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Tai lauksim kol turesi laiko parasyk
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| Saulius | posted 2013-01-30 14:56 |
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So I'll start with the thing everyone is waiting to here. 50 Great weapon, Khorne Marauders with full command are 580 points, they do however retain their statline Now on the more mundane things that have changed. Mark of Khorne; frenzy Mark of Tzeentch; +1 ward save Mark of Slaanesh; Auto pass fear, terror and panic Mark of Nugrle; Flat -1 to hit in close combat Marks on a per model basis Mutant regen is gone (except throgg), and troll vomit is no longer magical, same cost Chaos ogres gain impact hits Dragon ogres gain halberd option Forsaken are basically the same, same point cost, with a chart of rollable USR, ranging from asf, poison, etc MofK on Forsaken is hatred, MofS is Swiftstride Eye of the gods are all stat increases, except for 12 which turns characters, and chosen champ into Daemon Prince, units gain stubburn Valkia always gets +1 S when she rolls on eye of the gods Sigvald always rolls +1 A on eotgs, and gained T5 Chaos warriors same statline Warhounds true core Chariots as normal true core Hellcannon gains 5+ ward, everything else is the same Chaos lord stays the same, mounts change a little manticore for example, and marks are somewhat cheaper, mundane gear drops in price Chaos sorcerers, lores as rumoured, same statline Daemon Princes!!! A wait for it... Mazing. Chaos lord statline, ws9, S6, 5+ ward, Magical attacks, Unbreakable , must take a mark Khorne is +1s on charge, Nurgle is -1 to hit, Slaanesh is armour piercing?, and Tzeentch is re-roll 1's on ward and channel attempts New stuff: Chimera, SofM stats with a 4+ armour, for X points gains regeneration, for Y points gains s4 flaming breath weapon, tail attack has rules d3 attacks that are +1 to hit in rear Slaughterbrute is basically just a attack machine, bound uses are lord or hero ws, and opperates as normal (S7 or 6 can't rememeber exactly can check later, t6, 4+ armour) or can be unbound in which case its frenzied (which it can't lose), and Random movement 2d6, can buy 2 more s5 attacks Hentical beast, less killy bound spell's effect is roll a d6, 1-5 are d6 T test + effect, 6 is whole unit + effect. On Magic really great spells basically all made to turn the army into a killing machine, some of my favorites are 2 slaanesh spells 2 and 6 are hexes that give the unit ASL, and random movement d6, Treason is no inspiring presences or hold your ground, Phantasmagoria and Pavane, are both there. Nurgle has a lot of spells that are hexes and augments depending on who you use them on. Curse of the leper gives +d3 T to allies or -d3 to enemies. None are AoE if I recall correctly. Gateway on a 10+ for S is 3d6 hits, instead of 2d6 Skullcrushers get regular MC stats, Juggers have 3 attacks at s6 on the charge, Riders buy lances for 3 or EW for 5. Juggers have magical attacks and are only +2 to armour. That's what I got from the top of my head, if people present questions I'll do my best to reply. Juggers are T4, 3 wounds Daemonswords is gone, Magic items are if I recall correctly, Hellfire sword, Sword of change, The nurgle mace, helm of many eyes is now armour, a slaanesh item that gives you an additional attack for every wound you cause (might be a gift actually), The chalice is pretty meh to be honest. Eye of the gods is all stat increases +1 bs is 3, +1 attack, +1s, +1 I, etc. Chosen before game roll, get to roll 3d6 and remove on die. Gifts are mostly pretty cheap, there is one where you trade your attacks for double strength, flaming +5 ward against flaming, poison + 5 ward against poison, scally skin, third eye is back but it doesn't steal spells, an item that gives you +1 spell and +1 to channel. Oh glean magic, lore of tzeentch, your oppenent loses a wizard level, and a randomly determined spell, which you then gain. To be fair thats what warriors of chaos is, they force the issue, the difficulty comes from stopping the enemy from making you sing to his tune. I found the book very characterful. The Norse horde can be played, just as well as the super elite. Most armies got a little cheaper because of command and Mark changes but strictly from a per model basis not much got cheaper, and a lot got more expensive. The sweet spot is going to be MMU style armies, which is similar to his Empire book War shrine is a bound spell, chariot with no impact hits, and doesn't take dangerous terrain or have swift stride d3 units are given a roll Its pretty much what I said so far, 2 is take a ld test if you pass your -1 Ld and stupid, fail and your a spawn or removed, Stubburn, as is LD, 12 is daemon prince, 7 is a re-roll for that turn, everything else is a permanent killing stat increase. Marauders are same as now you pay for all their gear in addition, you start with a naked dude. Just small amount of people know - what to do with freedom!!! Just few of us deserve real freedom!
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| lostangel | posted 2013-01-30 19:06 |
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na baisoki nusimato wariorai, ypac magija ir jugeriai.
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| Saulius | posted 2013-01-31 09:38 |
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Sveikinu Chaos Warriors su naujo lygmens MSU armija, kurioje chariotai superinio pajiegumo, kaip ir kavalerija. http://z4.ifrm.com/3712/29/0/p1145521/large1.jpg http://z4.ifrm.com/3712/29/0/p1145520/large.jpg http://z4.ifrm.com/3712/29/0/p1145519/large.jpg Special chariotas : 6T, 5W, 3+ AS, 4 atakos 5str 5WS 5I, 3 atakos 4WS 2I, impactai 5str, 130pt , galimybe deti markus uz 10pt. Edited Saulius 2013-01-31 09:55 Just small amount of people know - what to do with freedom!!! Just few of us deserve real freedom!
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| Marukas | posted 2013-01-31 10:14 |
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Gera bus armija, aisku reikia dar visus kitus pakeitimus ziureti. Bet kaip matau sutvarke marauderius, dabar 6 taskiukai, tai jau normalu, imperijos alebardininkas arba orku boy'ius irgi tiek kainuoja... Greiciausiai bus viena horda su great weapon arba flail'ais ir kazkokiu marku, superinis junitas, bet dvieju hordu statyti bus neverta. O warirorai ir buvo 14 taskiuku? ar cia truputi pigesni tapo? Edited Marukas 2013-01-31 10:23 Hordes-Trollbloods
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| Saulius | posted 2013-01-31 11:23 |
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Marauderiai nueis į lentynas, nes su khorne marku ir GW vienas kainuoja 11pt, kai tik 3T. Warriorai dabar geriausi pėstininkai paliko pas Chaos Warriorus, Su khorne ir EHW daro 4 atakas 4str, 5WS, 4T, 4+ AS už 17pt. Su Nurgle lore gali jiems užmesti 3d Toughnesą ar poison atakas, arba 5+ Regeneraciją. Vietoj EHW ir Khorne gali imti Halberdas ir Nurgle marką, tai gausis po dvi 5str atakas ir -1 to hit. Įdomu kokia Core charioto statistika, greičiausiai 2 arkliai dvi atakos 4str, du Warriorai su halberdom, T5, W3 arba 4, pt? Just small amount of people know - what to do with freedom!!! Just few of us deserve real freedom!
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| Marukas | posted 2013-01-31 11:48 |
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3T dar ne minusas, visos elfu ir zmoniu armijos zaidzia su 3T, ir nieko zaisti galima Marauderiai tiesiog nebus no brainer varjantas, nes dabartinej knygoj tai chaos warriorai kaip ir nereikalingi buvo... o dabar wariorai bus pagrindiniai pestininkai.
Edited Marukas 2013-01-31 12:00 Hordes-Trollbloods
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| Saulius | posted 2013-01-31 12:04 |
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Jie ne tik kad no brainer, jie tampa visiškas š lygininat su kitais core choise ir su kitų rasių atstovais, pvz tie patys elfai turi Reroll to Hit, aukštesnę iniciatyvą ir LA+Shield už 10pt. Tas pats Saurus warrioras už 12pt turi dvi atakas 4str, 4 T ir 4+ save. Jie nėra blogiausia infantri žaidime, bet gavosi žemiau vidutinio lygmens, o tai chaos warriorų paletėje yra lentynos vieta. Gerai, kad bent Warriorai geri, nes daug kas jų turi.
Just small amount of people know - what to do with freedom!!! Just few of us deserve real freedom!
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